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U.S., Iraq Ponder
Long-Term Treaty
January 25, 2008
Morning Edition (NPR)
STEVE INSKEEP: We’re
moving closer to seeing the shape of a permanent American military
presence in Iraq. Next month, the Bush administration begins formal
negotiations with Iraq’s leaders. The talks may cover anything
from U.S. military bases to U.S. military commitments to defend the
country and more.
NPR’s Guy Raz is here to report on what
happens next.
And Guy, how important are these talks?
GUY RAZ: Well,
Steve, if you listen to administration officials, it seems pretty
run-of-the-mill, you know, sort of normal fare in the way that they
describe with these negotiations are all about, using terms like these.
PRESIDENT BUSH: We’re
now building an enduring relationship with Iraq.
RYAN CROCKER [U.S. Ambassador to Iraq]:
A long-term strategic partnership.
SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE:
And we look forward to a relationship with Iraq for the long term.
DEFENSE SECRETARY ROBERT GATES: A mutually
agreed arrangement whereby we have an enduring presence.
INSKEEP: Sounds
pretty benign.
RAZ:
It’s pretty vague language I would say, but I don’t think
that the people we just heard from, the President and Ambassador Ryan
Crocker, Condoleezza Rice, Secretary Robert Gates, are really letting
on how significant these negotiations actually are.
INSKEEP: Okay.
What’s a different way to describe these talks?
RAZ: Well,
there’s a congressman from Massachusetts, Bill Delahunt, and
here’s the way he describes it.
REPRESENTATIVE BILL DELAHUNT [D-MA]:
The most consequential decision that this country
will make in the course of this year.
RAZ: And
he’s talking about, basically, secret negotiations that the
administration is holding with the top members of the Iraqi cabinet,
and Delahunt has launched congressional hearings to look into this
and he’s invited members of the administration as well.
DELAHUNT: We
have issued invitations to a number of administration officials and
we have yet to receive a reply.
RAZ: And
Steve, neither has NPR. The Pentagon, which is actually leading these
negotiations didn’t respond to requests for comments and critics
of this process think that both the White House and the Pentagon want
to keep this issue out of the spotlight, and so a lot of skeptics
suspect that the Pentagon right now is, essentially, laying the foundation
for something more permanent, which is what Rahed Jarar, an Iraqi
political activist believes.
RAHED JARAR [Iraqi Political Activist]: Permanent
bases and permanent intervention in Iraq’s domestic issues for
the next decades.
RAZ: Now,
we should get a little background for a moment. Last November, the
President and Iraq’s Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, issued
a joint letter. It was called the Declaration of Principles. And the
letter is a blueprint for how the relationship between Washington
and Baghdad ought to be in the future and it includes a pledge to
basically defend Iraq’s system against internal and external
threats and it’s that sentence that’s really raising alarm
bells in certain quarters on Capitol Hill, including among people
like Congressman Delahunt.
DELAHUNT: This
amounts to a treaty.
RAZ: And
the administration denies this vehemently and it’s because a
treaty would require Senate ratification and the administration, essentially,
believes that they won’t be able to get that kind of approval
from the Senate.
INSKEEP: So
are they negotiating something that would look like a treaty and talk
like a treaty and act like a treaty, but not be called a treaty?
RAZ: Well,
that’s what critics say as well as legal experts, including
Kenneth Katzman, who is with the Congressional Research Service, and
he suggests that the administration might be splitting legal hairs.
KENNETH KATZMAN [Congressional Research
Service]: The declaration of
principles, obviously, was quite broad and it would appear to commit
the United States to basically keeping the elected Iraqi government
in power against internal threats. I leave it to the lawyers to determine
whether that’s the definition of a treaty or not, but it certainly
seems to be – it’s going to be a hefty U.S. commitment
to Iraq for a long time.
RAZ:
And also, perhaps, unprecedented in the history of American foreign
policy because in simple language, it could be the most wide-reaching
security arrangement with a foreign country that the U.S. has ever
actually had.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It
affects almost everything, from the way you shop, conduct business
on a daily basis and even the way you live.
RAZ: Now,
this is a TV commercial from the military’s Armed Forces Network
and it describes what U.S. troops in Korea can and cannot do. They
fall under what’s called a Status of Forces Agreement and the
U.S. has about 100 of these agreements with countries around the world.
Now, in the case of Iraq, both the White House
and the Pentagon say, you know, this bilateral relationship won’t
be any different from Status of Forces agreements, and by law, the
President can actually broker status of forces agreements alone without
any approval from the Senate and I asked a retired Army general, Michael
Nardotti, who was the Army’s top lawyer about this issue.
GENERAL MICHAEL NARDOTTI [Retired, U.S. Army]:
The President as the commander-in-chief, can
enter into an agreement and, in theory, certainly, as complex an agreement
as he deems appropriate and necessary and of the circumstances.
RAZ: But
of course in the case of Iraq, even the most optimistic assessments
don’t expect that country to look anything like Korea or Japan,
for example, which is why someone like Rahed Jarar, the Iraqi political
activist, is skeptical when he hears officials describe it as a status
of forces agreement.
JARAR: Bases
of the U.S. around the world are not situated in an occupied country;
for example, the U.S. forces in Japan can’t just go out of the
base and have a checkpoint in Tokyo. They can’t go around Tokyo,
you know, arresting Japanese people.
RAZ: Right.
And in Japan and Korea, the U.S. military isn’t allowed to maintain
internal stability either, or for that matter, in any other country
in the world.
INSKEEP: It
doesn’t have to maintain internal stability on those countries.
RAZ: It’s
not allowed to. And in the few cases where the U.S. military is actually
committed to defending allies from outside threats, from external
threats, they’re all treaties and as required by the U.S. Constitution,
they’ve all been approved by the U.S. Senate and NATO is probably
the best known example of this. But the White House has already made
it clear that in the Iraq agreement, it won’t go to Congress
to ask for permission.
So critics of this agreement like Congressman Delahunt believe that
White House and Pentagon lawyers will carefully construct the language
of the agreement to make it appear as if it’s not a treaty.
DELAHUNT: And
that language is, to me, profoundly disturbing.
RAZ: And it’s disturbing he says because it will commit the
U.S. to Iraq for a long, long time to come.
DELAHUNT: To
embrace an agreement that could be invoked in the event of an Iraqi
civil war, I think, is an extremely dangerous course to take.
RAZ:
Now, for their part, Iraqi officials don’t mince words. They
actually call this a treaty. Listen to Hoshar Zabari, the Iraqi foreign
minister just a few days ago.
HOSHAR ZABARI [Iraqi Foreign Minister]
(Translated.): Our leaders
have agreed to set a group of principles for the long-term treaty.
RAZ: Now,
nearly half of Iraq’s parliament have signed a letter demanding
a full U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq within the next two years,
but it’s the cabinet officials, the people who essentially depend
on U.S. military protection, they’re the people who are negotiating
the deal on Iraq’s behalf and they’ve implied that they
will require large numbers of U.S. troops in the country for at least
another decade.
Now, that poses a problem because Congress has passed three laws that
prohibit any U.S. funding for permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq
and I spoke to Kurt Campbell who was a top Pentagon official during
the 1990s, and he said there are actually ways around that as well.
KURT CAMPBELL [Former Department of
Defense Official]: While no
one will say anything about permanent bases, there are lot of ways
to create the potential for bases to be in Iraq for decades to come.
RAZ: So
White House and Pentagon lawyers might simply opt to use adjectives
like enduring or continuing instead of permanent when they write up
this agreement.
CAMPBELL: This
is an attempt in the last days of the Bush administration to hand
a new administration a done deal.
RAZ: And,
of course, a done deal that could solidify the administration’s
very complex legacy in Iraq.
INSKEEP: We’re
listening to NPR’s Guy Raz. And Guy, this does raise a question.
If the administration negotiates this agreement, whether you call
it a treaty or not, this agreement – is it going to be binding
on the next president?
RAZ: Well,
it will be binding, essentially, whether it’s an agreement or
a treaty because, traditionally, in the history of U.S. foreign policy,
presidents try not to break agreements or treaties that have been
negotiated by their predecessors. So until it’s renegotiated,
it will, essentially, and could essentially become policy for the
next administration.
INSKEEP: Which
doesn’t mean you could never withdraw from Iraq. The United
States withdrew from its commitments in Vietnam, for example, but
it became an embarrassment.
RAZ: And
it becomes difficult because once you establish a large military presence
in a country, it’s unusual for that presence to then diminish
significantly as, of course, we see with Osan in South Korea, Okinawa
in Japan and the several installations in Germany.
INSKEEP: NPR’s
Guy Raz. Thanks very much.
RAZ: Thank
you, Steve. |
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